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Certainly an “interesting” article. HOWEVER, one can NOT honestly draw the …

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Certainly an “interesting” article.

HOWEVER, one can NOT honestly draw the conclusion that Senator McCain is actually the RESPONSIBLE party for the MIA’s not being returned. McCain’s involvement on the POW/MIA Committee begins at the END of 1991, 16 years after the US left Vietnam, and 18 years after Hanoi released McCain and the other acknowledged POW’s.

In his article, Mr. Schanberg CLEARLY states that the government in Hanoi withheld the names of roughly 1,250 prisoners (in CLEAR violation of The Geneva Accords, of which Vietnam WAS a signatory) not only at the TIME of the Paris Negotiations, BUT for the following 20 years !!

MOST of the US Government information regarding POW’s was withheld at the TIME (70’s & 80’s) because it was classified (duh), because it would reveal means and methods.

The Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs mentioned in Mr Schanberg’s article pointedly mentions Sentator McCain and berates the committee’s failure to do anything, yet fails to mention the other members (even split Dem / Rep) :
John Kerry – Democrat (Chairman)
Bob Smith – Republican
Bob Kerrey – Democrat
Chuck Robb – Democrat
Hank Brown – Republican
Chuck Grassley – Republican
Nancy Landon Kassebaum – Republican
Herb Kohl – Democrat
Tom Daschle – Democrat
Harry Reid – Democrat
Jesse Helms – Republican

Senator Bob Kerrey, THEN a candidate for the Presidential nomination for the 1992 Democratic Party said of the Committee – “Nobody wanted to be on that damn committee. It was an absolute loser. Everyone knew that the POW stories were fabrications, but no one wanted to offend the vet community.”

Senator John Kerry, later, THE Democratic Party canditate for the Presidency is ALSO quoted in Mr Schanberg’s essay – “We wanted to appear to be probing the prisoner issue energetically, but in fact, we never rocked official Washington’s boat, nor did we lay open the 20 years of secrecy and untruths.”

The Committee’s final report – ” While the Committee has some evidence suggesting the possibility a POW may have survived to the present, and while some information remains yet to be investigated, there is, at this time, no compelling evidence that proves that any American remains alive in captivity in Southeast Asia.”

JUST FYI, it was President William J. Clinton who opened and normalized relations with The Peoples Communist Republic of Vietnam in 1994… he had EIGHT years to push the issue, why didn’t HE ??

As a former US Naval Aircrewman flying combat and CSAR missions during Operation Praying Mantis, Desert Shield / Storm, Somalia, and Kosovo, I am VERY sympathetic to the families of the POW/MIA’s… however, YOUR and Mr. Shanberg’s attempt to lay this issue at the feet of Senator McCain TWELVE years after the Committee issued it’s final report is outright partisan politics.

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Rats
… You mean like the following Republican men who didn’t serve?

# Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC – did not serve. Saw fit to endanger American troops’ lives after a visit to Iraq by violating operational security and helping militias target their mortar attacks on the Green Zone.
# Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY – did not serve (1)
# Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI – avoided the draft, did not serve.
# Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ – did not serve.
# Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX – did not serve.
# National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV – did not serve.
# House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH – did not serve.
# House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO – did not serve.
# House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL – did not serve.
# House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI – did not serve.
# National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK – did not serve.
# Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani – did not serve.
# Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney – did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.
# Former Senator Fred Thompson – did not serve.
# Senator John McCain – McCain’s naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so in 2000? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
# Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert – avoided the draft, did not serve.
# Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey – avoided the draft, did not serve.
# Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay – avoided the draft, did not serve (1). “So many minority youths had volunteered … that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself.”
# Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt – did not serve
# Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist – did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
# Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate – did not serve. (1)
# George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia – a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)
# Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld – served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan’s Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.
# GW Bush – decided that a six-year Nat’l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he’s “been to war.” Huh?
# VP Cheney – several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, “had other priorities than military service”) (1)
# Former Att’y Gen. John Ashcroft – did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
# Jeb Bush, Florida Governor – did not serve. (1)
# Karl Rove – avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
# Former Speaker Newt Gingrich – avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
# Former President Ronald Reagan – due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
# “B-1” Bob Dornan – avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
# Phil Gramm – avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments

Go here and you can read about prominent Democrats who DID serve.

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html


Rats
I am always surprised at Eric Holder. he belongs in prison.


Rats
Eric Holder has shown absolutely no sign that he is anti-gun, and neither has President Obama. I say this as a Second Amendment supporter and gun owner myself. You are correct that not only did it start under Bush, but it was the third such program over which Bush presided.

Gun privileges have expanded under President Obama, and the only one to ever take away guns in the history of this country was Republican Dick Cheney ordering guns taken away from the citizens of New Orleans after the Katrina flood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina#Confiscation_of_firearms

Holder has appeared before Congress nine times and has released over 7,600 pages of documents. The only thing he hasn’t released is that which he may not release, by law. This is nothing more than the Republicans trying to whip up their pro-gun base to vote against Obama, and the attempt to get rid of Eric Holder because he’s holding their feet to the fire on their attempts to suppress voting.

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