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I have Hakeem 3rd all-time also. I have him as the best center ever. He’s arguably the best player of all-time. I only have both MJ’s ahead of him. Here is an argument I made a while ago for Hakeem over Kareem (who I think is the 4th best player ever).

Kareem tends to get a bit more credit because of the rings and stacked up stats and MVP awards but he played in a situation that allowed him to rack up those awards. First off, he played with the two greatest PG’s of all time in Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson. When he was with the Lakers he had Magic setting him up and also had James Worthy as well and two are both top 50 greatest players ever. Hakeem led his Rockets past Kareem’s Lakers in the 1986 WCF when Kareem had a better team and was upset by Hakeem’s Rockets.

Hakeem wasn’t given nearly as much help throughout his career and made due with what he was given and that is to counter people who say Kareem based off accomplishments. I think Hakeem was the better player all around and before I get to that I want to talk about how he is the more clutch player and how he made due with what he was given like I stated earlier.

During the 1994-1995 NBA season his team had the 6th best record at 47-35 in the west. Hakeem come playoff time then turned in what would be the most pressured playoff run that a player and his team have ever had to endure in the history of the game in my opinion. First he had to play the Jazz in round 1 who had a record of 60-22 and home court advantage. He had to go up against the legendary duo of John Stockton and Karl Malone and prevailed even in the eliminated game of game 5.

Game 1:
Hakeem: 45pts, 8rebs, 6ast, 3blk, 2stl
Malone: 25pts, 14rebs, 4ast
Stockton: 28pts, 10ast

Game 2:
Hakeem: 27pts, 7rebs, 4ast, 3blk, 2stl
Malone: 28pts, 17rebs, 2ast
Stockton: 12pts, 12ast

Game 3:
Hakeem: 30pts, 10rebs, 3ast, 5blk
Malone: 32pts, 19rebs, 5ast
Stockton: 11pts, 13ast

Game 4:
Hakeem: 40pts, 8rebs, 3ast
Malone: 31pts, 6rebs, 5ast
Stockton: 26pts, 11ast

Game 5 (Elimination):
Hakeem: 33pts, 10rebs, 4ast
Malone: 35pts, 10rebs, 3ast
Stockton: 12pts, 5ast

*Hakeem shot a much better fg% than Malone the whole series.

Then after escaping a game 5 elimination game by 4 pts against the Jazz and needing two 40pt explosions in the series to do so he had to face the 59-23 Suns. In that series his team trailed the series 3-1 and Hakeem led his team to a game 7 and a victory. After losing game 4 and scoring 38 points and Hakeem’s team now being down 3-1, Hakeem destroyed the entire series to give his team 3 straight wins and averaged 30ppg, 11.7rpg, 2.3bpg, and 5.7apg for the rest of the series along with a 1 point win in game 7 to advance against David Robinson’s 62-20 win spurs, in a series that Hakeem held Robinson to 42%fg shooting while putting up these numbers during the 7 game series.

Game 1 vs Spurs: 27pts, 8rebs, 6ast, 5blks
Game 2 vs Spurs: 41pts, 16rebs, 4ast, 2blks
Game 3 vs Spurs: 43pts, 11rebs, 4ast, 5blks
Game 4 vs Spurs: 20pts, 14rebs, 5ast, 3blks
Game 5 vs Spurs: 42pts, 9rebs, 8ast, 5blks
Game 6 vs Spurs: 39pts, 17rebs, 3ast, 5blks

In an important game 6, David Robinson was hounded by Hakeem’s defense to shoot only 6-17 from the field.

Then in the finals Hakeem’s rockets sweep Shaq’s Magic who had a 57 win season. Hakeem posted 32.8ppg, 11.3rpg, and 5.5apg vs Shaq’s 28ppg, 12.5rpg, and 6.3apg series to win he series and win the title.

*Hakeem had no home court throughout the entire playoffs.
* Trailed a series 3-1
* Went 4-0 in elimination games.
* Out played 2 all time great centers.

With that said, Hakeem was able to do all this without a great PG like Kareem and without HOF talent that were in their primes and Hakeem found a way to get another ring. Hakeem had better moves in the post that Kareem, Hakeem was also a better defender and won defensive player of the year and became the all time leader in blocks in an era that had much more athletic players. And Hakeem played the passing lanes better and is among the top 10 in steals yet he is a center. He was able to switch onto guards in pick and rolls and guard them better than Kareem could. Kareem had him in rebounds a bit and assists, but Hakeem was better on offense, and defense and with the above information along with other things done in Hakeem’s career he was the better pressure player and more clutch. Imagine what Hakeem could have done playing with Oscar or Magic..
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@ irwin: Kareem played with Oscar and Magic. He had Oscar before Magic. Kareem was with the Lakers before Magic, and never won anything. Kareem even got hurt in the 1980 finals and Magic started at center and dominated for 42/12/7. Hakeem never played with anyone that good. Hakeem won a title with a 6th seed team against the top 4 teams in the NBA while Kareem never did. Yeah, because Drexler was TOTALLY in his prime at that time….

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100% scam.

There is no company buying cars. The cashier’s check is FAKE and will BOUNCE but not until AFTER you transfer the car to the the scammer. Now they have the car, free and clear, and you have $200 and owe the dealership thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. The dealership WILL report you to the local law enforcement agency AND take you to court to demand you pay them for the car you have now stolen. You will be extremely lucky to not end up in prison for years.

The scammers who contacted you use fake names and free email addresses. Since that scammer intended to steal your money, he did not give you his real life information. All you have is one of his fake names, one of his free email addresses, one of his fake stories and one of his paid-for-in-cash cell phone numbers. None of that information is going to help your local law enforcement agency track down that anonymous scammer sitting in a cyber cafe half way around the world from you.

If you have responded to a scammer, you are on his ‘potential sucker’ list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of being the perfect buyer, great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don’t bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn’t worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

6 “Rules to follow” to avoid most fake jobs:
1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.

Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed ‘red flags’ and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.

If you google “Western Union scam”, “moneygram payment scam”, “fake payment fraud” or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near victims of this type of scam.


5 Reasons to Use Numbers in Post Titles
100% scam.

There is no truck.

There are stolen pictures of someone else’s truck.

There is only a scammer trying to steal your hard-earned money.

The next email will be from another of the scammer’s fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the “eBay Buyer Protection Program” and will demand you pay for “shipping costs and insurance”, in cash, and only by Western Union or moneygram.

Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.

Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his ‘potential sucker’ list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don’t bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn’t worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

If you google “fake car shipping scam”, “western union shipping fraud” or something similar you will find hundreds of posts of victims and near victims of this type of scam.


5 Reasons to Use Numbers in Post Titles
100% scam.

There is no job.

There is only a scammer trying to steal your hard-earned money.

The next email will be from another of the scammer’s fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the “manager” and will demand you cash a large fake check sent on a stolen UPS/FedEx billing account number and send the money via Western Union or moneygram back to him. The only real job here is you paying back your bank for all their money you sent to that scammer overseas.

Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.

Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his ‘potential sucker’ list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don’t bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn’t worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

6 “Rules to follow” to avoid most fake jobs:
1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.

Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed ‘red flags’ and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.


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